OTL Chinese Communist wins Chinese Civil War Honkai: Star Rail become censored TTL Kuomintang Won Chinese Civil War Honkai: Star Rail never became censored. How does this affect Honkai: Star Rail after KMT wins Chinese civil war?
What if Kuomintang Won Chinese Civil War Would does Affect Honkai: Star Rail?
- Thread starter Sasha_2003
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I really feel like you could make one thread about how KMT China would effect censorship of anime in general or something. Does it really need a thread for every series?
Burton K Wheeler
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As has been said by others, you should put all these similar questions in one thread, to do otherwise can get kind of spammy.
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It be like asking if Steven Universe would get a better ending regarding the Diamonds in a world where Adolf Hitler died during the Beer Hall Putsch and the Weimar Republic survived.
Hey guys in a TL where the Damanskij Island incident goes nuclear do Ross and Rachel still go on a break?
I was about to post some thoughts on the state of some sort of anime industry in a victorious KMT China on the Footprint of Mussolini thread, I forgot about doing so, but this thread with a troll-ish tone has hopefully reminded me to do it.
Overall, I recall that the CEO of Studio MAPPA said that he personally believes that the anime industry of China will one day surpass Japan's, and that if China did not had such strict (and inconsistent) media censorship, they would have surpassed Japan long ago, then imagine such a thing in a victorious KMT timeline, assuming that they would be more socially permissible to tolerate things related to violence and sex which are common in anime.
I would say it depends since all things considered its likely that China becomes like South Korea/Taiwan pre-liberalization where the military ruled everything and mass censorship, state controlled, and the police state dominated everything. In many ways not that different from our PRC but at least it would likely lead to less deaths overall.
Once the state does start to liberalize it would still be likely that Japan dominates the anime scene since they hold a major head start in both Technic and market, without any major censorship or potential political/ideological opposition. If nothing else this China would become a major market for the Japanese Anime/Manga and would eventually start to copy and take after Japan but its likely that eventually the Japanese and Chinese anime and manga markets just unite into several pan-Asian entities.
The only thing stopping that now is the CCP/PRC and their conflict with the west/East Asia along with the whole oppressive and controlling state.
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Agreed, people who think that a victorious KMT China would be a socially progressive hippie paradise is daydreaming, after their victory in an alt-Chinese Civil War, the KMT China would still remain an authoritarian military dictatorship, since China would also be recovering from decades of brutal wars and social unrest, the 1950s-1970s in a KMT China would not have had as many deaths without the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution.
But famines, mass murder of suspected communists and anti-KMT rivals, China's own red scare, political purges, mass censorship, economic crises, social conservatism (might be amplified ITTL, since the anti-religious campaigns of the PRC would not have occurred, or would have been less severe, thus, the pre-WWII American missionary-derived Christianity remains strong and more popular in this KMT China, ditto with Buddhism that does not undergoes persecution), and social unrest will still inevitably keep occurring until the 1970s or so.
This is arguably occurring as of now, see how many anime studios have been outsourcing their productions to Korean and Chinese studios, more Chinese and Korean mangaka are publishing their works in Japan, Chinese and Korean gacha games are huge successes in Japan, and Japanese anime and manga are huge successes in Korea and China.
Hell, it took a while for me to become aware that stuff like Genshin Impact, Azur Lane, Honkai, and Nikke are not Japanese works, I would not have been aware of these Chinese and Korean anime and manga works in the 2000s (the only remotely popular pre-2010s Korean Manhwa in the West that pops in my mind is Ragnarok, whose MMORPG was very popular here in Brazil in the mid 2000s), and most anime and manga database sites have also started to accept South Korean and Chinese animation into their list (when they only previously permitted Japanese works), I can really feel that the anime and manga industry is slowly morphing into a single pan-East Asian market.
In my long hot take on the Bush vs. the Axis of Evil thread, I mentioned that an increased Japanese-Korean (thus in the scenario we are talking about, Japanese-Korean-Chinese co-operation) in animation, manga, and video games would happen around 20 years earlier (early 2000s), instead of only picking up steam in the 2020s.
Also, if the KMT wins a total victory, then North Korea would not exist, so an united Republic of Korea might also turn out differently from OTL South Korea, maybe its dictatorship period may or may not be butterflied away, or be less severe and oppressive as it was IOTL, thus also giving more creative freedom to Korean manga/manhwa and anime creators.
I wonder if a liberalized KMT China would also legalize gambling, or adopt Pachinkos as a loophole, hell, as of 2015, Japan's pachinko market generates more gambling revenue than that of Macau, Las Vegas, and Singapore combined!
Regardless, I will soon be starting a thread dedicated to this subject, so I will tell you when it is ready.
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Not sure how true this would be since the Kuomintang would likely be like South Korea where they control sexuality in media and heavily control or outright band porn. Things might change if the Kuomintang China liberalizes however which might see greater liberty and less willingness to censor.